What will you tell the company if they come after more concessions YES or NO

[RogerD@YYZ]

We're one step closer to just reality...


http://action.web.ca/home/caw2002/en...shtml?x=104429

CAW-RAW-XXX-LAW-WAR hardcore

[RogerD@YYZ]

Interesting!!!

http://www.iamaw2323.ca/2323_bulletins/2007/2323Bulletin_InternationalCentreSessions_June8_07. pdf

According to our CAW Local 2002, District 301 Union CIC*644/15, CAW Members have been invited along.

Let's see what they say???

Stand firm or prepare to concede more, then invoke "ME2" clauses when others negotiate more???

Hope IAM has an 18.05 clause in your contract!!!

[RogerD@YYZ]

Very interesthink meeting...

And what follows...

http://micro.newswire.ca/release.cgi?rkey=1506228089&view=65938-0&Start=0

MONTREAL, June 22 /CNW Telbec/ - ACE Aviation Holdings Inc. (ACE)announced today that it has agreed to sell a 70% interest in its wholly ownedmaintenance, repair and overhaul subsidiary ACTS LP (ACTS) to a consortiumconsisting of Sageview Capital LLC, a private investment firm, and KKR PrivateEquity Investors, L.P. (Euronext Amsterdam: KPE), the publicly traded fund ofKohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co. ("KKR"). ACE will retain a 30% equity interestin ACTS and Air Canada will remain its largest customer.

"This transaction is an important step in ACE's strategy of unlocking the
value in all of our businesses," said Robert Milton, Chairman, President and
Chief Executive Officer of ACE.

The modern-day carpet-baggers are at it again, selling away our national interest to foreign usurpers.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...International/

U.S. private equity titan Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co. will reveal today that it's buying a controlling interest in Air Canada [AC.A-T] Technical Services, aiming to create a leading Canadian-based aircraft maintenance firm that services airlines around the world.

[Umberto]

Well everyone as of Friday all we will have left belonging to Air Canda will be our union contract which expires in 2009.At the information sessions following the sale of 70% to KKR ,I asked if our passes and other benefits would be changed.The answer was,"All will remain the same until the end of the present contract which expires in 2009 including Pay Pension,and Passes.I also asked if the IAM passes aftre the expiration of the present contract would be in danger the reply was "All pass priveleges would be addressed at the end of present contract.My follow up question was ,If a person has the required years and he retires BEFORE the end of present contract would he then retire as if he were still an Air Canada Employee keeping Pension and passes,the reply was "Yes all who go before the expiration of present contract will keep Pension Passes and all Benefits still in effect with present contract.We must all remember that as of Friday we are NO LONGER Air Canada "airline "employees but rather employees of an MRO like any other .Also when we negotiate we no longer can cripple the airline with a strike beacause we no longer worl for any airline ,therefore they can go wherever they want if we shut down in less than 24 hrs...

[RogerD@YYZ]

I maybe incorrect in my presumptions, but as far as I know, pensions are a contractual right, while travel/pass is an avenue benefit not specifically enshrined in the various "bargained" collective agreements.

In fact the company always insists it is a privilege, while the union knows damn well the jurisprudence case law precedent has convincingly argued and won awards where it is in fact an earned benefit avenued through the union collective [Whitlow/CAW v. AC arbitration, steered by Dennie as DC-301/L-2002 CAW] much to the chagrin and annoyance of the company.

Some may have surrendered in defeat but many of us are yet prepared to keep the struggle going, regardless of whom our common employer pretends to be, in perpetual equity.

Settling to compete against the lowest common denominator will result in a deterioration of your wages, pensions (deferred wages) and benefits.

A lowered product will be the end result of that default.

In United Solidarity,

CAW-RAW

[RogerD@YYZ]

We sure have a lot of Nervous Nelly suckers amongst us eh???

Packages my arse...

Remember what the Judge-Arbitrator ruled regarding VSP's...

It would pay all in spades to remember who paid a HUGE sacrifice and costly price for the allure of infernal packages last time around...

CAW Union leadership better have learnt lessons from the last fiasco where certain members were sold out to pay for others when the move did not save ANY jobs down the line...

http://action.web.ca/home/caw2002/en....shtml?x=91458



http://action.web.ca/home/caw2002/en....shtml?x=92875

http://action.web.ca/home/caw2002/en....shtml?x=70181

http://action.web.ca/home/caw2002/en....shtml?x=98564

http://action.web.ca/home/caw2002/en....shtml?x=97922

http://action.web.ca/home/caw2002/en....shtml?x=93568

The rank-and-file are not in the mood for any more of that b/s...

Once out of CCAA the money magically appeared from all sorts of hiding places and now that 2010 is coming around, the thoughts of 2009 have suddenly made them poor again, eh???

[RogerD@YYZ]

We sure have a lot of Nervous Nelly suckers amongst us eh???

Packages my arse...

Remember what the Judge-Arbitrator ruled regarding VSP's...

It would pay all in spades to remember who paid a HUGE sacrifice and costly price for the allure of infernal packages last time around...

Also, we have approximately 1000 members who took a 50% wage cut and we have some responsibility to ensure some degree of fairness for these members. The $50 million spent on packages for senior members to retire was financed by this 50% wage cut.

The CAW Union leadership better have learnt lessons from the last fiasco where certain members were sold out to pay for others when the move did not save ANY jobs down the line...

The affected members fought back and won their fight to correct a HUGE injustice...

More...

http://action.web.ca/home/caw2002/en....shtml?x=91458

http://action.web.ca/home/caw2002/en....shtml?x=70181

http://action.web.ca/home/caw2002/en....shtml?x=98564

http://action.web.ca/home/caw2002/en....shtml?x=97922

The CAW-RAW rank-and-file are not in the mood for any more of that b/s...

Once out of CCAA the money magically appeared from all sorts of hiding places and now that 2010 is coming around, the thoughts of 2009 have suddenly made them poor again, eh???

[Jack]

Originally Posted by RogerD@YYZ

I maybe incorrect in my presumptions, but as far as I know, pensions are a contractual right, while travel/pass is an avenue benefit not specifically enshrined in the various "bargained" collective agreements.

In fact the company always insists it is a privilege, while the union knows damn well the jurisprudence case law precedent has convincingly argued and won awards where it is in fact an earned benefit avenued through the union collective [cf. Whitlow/IAM v. AC arbitration, steered by Dennie/Whitlow CAW] much to the chagrin and annoyance of the company.

Some may have surrendered in defeat but many of us are yet prepared to keep the struggle going, regardless of whom our common employer pretends to be, in perpetual equity.

Settling to compete against the lowest common denominator will result in a deterioration of your wages, pensions (deferred wages) and benefits.

A lowered product will be the end result of that default.

In United Solidarity,

CAW-RAW

RogerD,

Could you give me a reference to this arbitration. I would like to obtain a copy.

Regards,
J

[RogerD@YYZ]

Jack,

Leave it with me. I'll dig up in my achives and see if I can at least find the LAC citation.

Cheers,

RogerD

[RogerD@YYZ]

A few factoids to bear in mind, come 2009…

http://finance.sympatico.msn.ca/investing/news/businessnews/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5386207

http://finance.sympatico.msn.ca/investing/stocks/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5393663

http://finance.sympatico.msn.ca/inve...mentid=5386851